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Dennis Shaw is a musician, marathoner (Boston!), retired military officer, math modeler, muse, and United Methodist Pastor. A keen observer of the human condition, he has degrees in music, quantitative methods (don’t ask!), theology and leadership. He will discuss with other leaders how to become engaged and present in our current leadership opportunities. Critical to leadership is strong self-awareness. Becoming authentic, empathetic, and aware will form the framework of all discussions. You can access and follow this podcast on Apple, Podbean, Spotify and Amazon Music.
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Monday Feb 17, 2025
Dr. George Thompson Explores Church Leadership at the Edge of Somewhere!
Monday Feb 17, 2025
Monday Feb 17, 2025
Welcome to the Mindful Leader podcast hosted by Dennis Shaw, a retired elder from the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church. This episode, features Dr. George Thompson, and we focus on leadership development in local churches. Dr. Thompson shares insights from his extensive experience and his book Church on the Edge of Somewhere. exploring the dynamics of church identity, leadership, and the societal influences on congregations.
(The grid that Dennis and Dr. Thompson discuss is shown at the bottom of these show notes.)
Through engaging dialogue, Dr. Thompson and Dennis discuss the significance of understanding congregations as distinct entities, and how leaders can navigate the complexities of church dynamics. The conversation delves into adaptive leadership, empathetic marginality, and the importance of moving beyond conventional paradigms to inspire meaningful change.
Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of how churches can balance inner commitments with external challenges, explore innovative approaches to congregational leadership, and appreciate the rich, diverse expressions of faith within different community contexts. Join us for an enriching dialogue aimed at empowering church leaders and fostering transformation in today's ever-evolving world.
A link to the book we discussed is HERE.
Transcript link is HERE.
Unrelated to this particular podcast, I promised several months ago to share podcasts that animated me, and HERE is a great one on To Kill a Mockingbird.
Dennis email is HERE (and some Podcast services block it out. It is found HERE if they have blocked it and the HERE at the start of this is not linking. ).
The grid we discuss in the show and mentioned above is below ...

Monday Jan 27, 2025
Dr. Bruce Birch: Sing the Lord's Song in a New Land
Monday Jan 27, 2025
Monday Jan 27, 2025
(Normal release for this Podcast is Mondays. I generally post it when it is ready, usually a few days before Mondays. Note: it can be shared. A reward to subscribers and those looking for the podcast on their service. A transcript is HERE. The Transcript Service provides the recording, so if you desire, you can listen while you read. (I won't get a count of you logging on, but ... ))
Join Dennis Shaw, host of Mindful Leader, in a compelling conversation with Dr. Bruce Birch, retired Dean Emeritus at Wesley Theological Seminary in Washington, DC.
In this episode, they delve into the profound theme of exile as depicted in the Bible and its relevance to today's world. Dr. Birch's expertise in Old Testament and Biblical Theology sheds light on the historical and emotional aspects of exile. He explores how the concept of exile has molded responses in times of crisis, offering hope and a path to renewal.
Through stories from the Biblical era to modern-day challenges, Dr. Birch discusses the importance of turning towards God's new paths, embracing change, and finding new ways to sing the Lord’s song amidst adversity. Whether you are part of a faith community or navigating your personal journey, discover the lessons of resilience, creativity, and community in times of loss and transformation. This engaging dialogue examines how the faithful can find strength and purpose when the familiar is uprooted, encouraging us all to look forward to God's new future beyond nostalgia.
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Amanda McDow is the Pastor at Los Angeles First United Methodist and they are singing a new song. Mindful Leader Podcast is HERE.
Here is Jonathon Haidt on a different topic than I promised and it is good. I refund your subscription price if you don't like it!
The real Haidt talk I am referring to in my conversation with Dr. Birch is HERE -- it is a TED Talk from 2012. Quite good I felt.
Next week I expect the Podcast to be on church leadership on health and wellness. One of the guests is Tracy Reinhard and HERE is a YouTube video of her story.
Dennis email is HERE.

Saturday May 13, 2023
Episode 1 -- A Mindful Interview with Angela Thomas
Saturday May 13, 2023
Saturday May 13, 2023
Angela Thomas is the Chief Financial Officer for the Mountain Sky Conference of the United Methodist Church. Steeped in the local church, conferences and the private sector, Angela brings wisdom and experience to her financial leadership.
Don't hesitate to send me a note at dennis at mantuan dog org if you have any comments you wish to share with me, or just need help getting a regular feed on this brand new podcast.

Monday Mar 04, 2019
Transfiguration Sunday -- Jesus Revealed in our Valleys
Monday Mar 04, 2019
Monday Mar 04, 2019
The Transfiguration Text from Luke. I felt a number of weeks ago that focusing on the valley experience was where the Holy Spirit was carrying me (us?). There is a good bit of pain at this church over the recent General Conference. I have tried the last several weeks to minimize direct discussion of General Conference, and focus more on implied elements. This day, I felt a direct discussion was in order. All I can tell anyone is that I agonized over what to say, and this is what God provided me.
This is from 9:00 AM. I may also do the 10:30 service, which was a little longer.

Thursday Jan 25, 2018
Unafraid -- Fear of the Other
Thursday Jan 25, 2018
Thursday Jan 25, 2018
This was a look at Fear of the Other. Connect with each other. Quite a bit of reference back to the music we sang this day. The reprise I used was a little play off an acronym of FEAR -- Face Everything and Rise with some words from Dr. King on moving from fear to knowing and meeting.
Question is "how often do we let our fear of the stranger drive us to not connect."
Some continuation of the previous week's theme of connectedness, but here the connectedness is getting past the dikes that hold us in our own flood of fear of the other. Dikes of courage (among other things) are needed (a quote i thought about using, but didn't.)
I am currently listening to Isaac Asimov Robots of Dawn and wonder how much of this might be helpful ... if you are not familiar with the book, do not worry. If you are, the conversation Daneel and Elijah in Chapter 2 is what I am thinking. Elijah has to see Robots differently on Aurora than on Earth. On Earth, they are an object of scorn and subservience. On Aurora (a fictitious planet) they are near equals, if not precisely equals. Elijah has to be taught this, as it does not come naturaly to him. Yes?
Quotes from Dr. King:
- "People fail to get along because they fear each other; they fear each other because they don't know each other; they don't know each other because they have not communicated with each other."
- "We must build dikes of courage to hold back the flood of fear."
― Martin Luther King Jr.

Thursday Jan 25, 2018
Unafraid - We Need Community
Thursday Jan 25, 2018
Thursday Jan 25, 2018
Question is "what keeps you from getting connected with others?"
But two prong: we ourselves must open ourselves up to others but others must also look at us and be willing to attempt to connect with us. Not an either/or but both/and.
Music focusing on community (invite the stranger) but also recognizing the need for solitude. Mixed. A balance. Not exclusively hang out with others all day/every day. We need to be together, in fact, we are made to be in community but on the other hand, it is natural, and biblical to seek moments alone.

Sunday Oct 08, 2017
Narrative Lectionary -- You are Commissioned! (Includes the Ministry Moment)
Sunday Oct 08, 2017
Sunday Oct 08, 2017

Monday Oct 02, 2017
Narrative Lectionary -- God Provides in the Wilderness
Monday Oct 02, 2017
Monday Oct 02, 2017
Exodus 16: 1-25 -- a quick trip in the wilderness focusing on needs and how God provides. Points toward John 6 -- Jesus as the Bread of Life. The Children of Israel sit in the wilderness between already and not-yet, slavery and freedom. God will provide ...

Monday Jul 31, 2017
July 30, 2017: Fear Factor
Monday Jul 31, 2017
Monday Jul 31, 2017
Our Scripture for today is from 1 Peter 3:13-16. We invite you to listen as Susan Dunlap encouraged us to face our fears and to live wholeheartedly as followers of Jesus. Our calling to live free from fear is a call to serve and love our world. Trust, pray and act! Thank you for this timely reminder, Susan.